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Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:36:00 - [1] Let's get back on topic shall we Rodj? You have stated that the Bloodveil is jealous of the Amarr Empire. However, throughout history, it was the Empire trying to exterminate the Sani Sabik. I submit to you it is the Empire and its sheep that is jealous of the Sani Sabik. After all the Empire, for it's centuries of existence has tried to exterminate on Athra (and failed) and then try to destroy us among the stars (another failure). I should point out as well you speak of an Empire. But where's the Emperor. Where's the leadership? Scattered into the winds. Now various offices are attempting to act in the Empire's name. Without your precious Emperor as the foundation, the Empire has started to decay from within. It will be only a matter of time before the The Mandate and the Kingdom start setting eyes on Amarr itself. The Star Fraction displayed the ease of the attack. And the Loyalist bloc showed its cowardice. I would think on the day when the Empire Falls (not "if") there will be quite a few entities feeding from that corpse. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.21 16:27:00 - [2] An observation if may? In the past the Empire looks towards the Emperor. Throughout my schooling it was this one person that held the Empire together. If the empire was a brick house, the Emperor the mortar. Even the Royal Chamberlain has remained quiet and I am to understand he rules in place of Emperor, when he is absent. Where is he? The Emperor is gone. The house is falling and you don't have the sense to get out. One of principal problems is the decentralized nature of the government. As a result each office, each agency is a power onto itself. Each has the ability to generate its own fund to further its own agenda contrary to the true needs of the Empire. In addition, where was the Imperial Navy during the invasion of Amarr? Protecting jump gates in accordance to CONCORD policy. To say that this was only corp vs. corp war between PIE and SF would be grossly incorrect.The spiritual and physical center of the Empire was occupied by an enemy force that dominated the whole system. In times before CONCORD, the Navy would not put up with such nonsense. Not when the Emperor's seat and the Theology Council are vulnerable to attack from either side. The Navy would've ended the war quickly and efficiently and then set upon the task to lay the blame. It is evident to those in the Sani Sabik that the Empire of old is dead. There is no Emperor, the government is in chaos (though you deny it Rodj), and its people have become slaves and servants to CONCORD. I predict that it will be matter of time before the Khanid or the Ammatar will make a move to centralize the Empire under their banners because it will be in their best interests to do so. And they, like others that came before them, will have to deal with the Sani Sabik. This time we'll be holding the keys to the gate Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.22 02:51:00 - [3] Originally by: Garreck Our success is to provide a haven for all loyalists as well as merchants in lawless space. Our success is to have pushed out a hated enemy of the empire and all who do not embrace the policy of "not red, don't shoot." Our success is to bring several alliances and small organizations together who buy into the policy of "not red, don't shoot" and who cooperate together for mutual defense and profit. Our success is to turn a low profitability area into a high profitability area (come check out the ever expanding market some time.) If the Empire deigns to take Providence off of our hands, the success will be completed...but we have been successful to a great degree in all tangible, measurable areas. If this were not so, you would not be recycling an argument that has no bearing on our current success what-so-ever. So again explain how Providence is apart of the Amarr Empire? Can you tell which agency of the Empire will gladly relinquish to? All I see is a glorified spin story about aggression against innocents behind the banner of a non-existent Emperor. Those that you did chase away, you failed to eliminate completely. They will be back and in greater numbers, such is the way of the Minmatar. I would suggest that now there is nothing to do in Providence you do everything you can to shore up that pretty little alliance of yours. With no prey to feed from, the true predators will turn on the others consuming them in the feast of cannibalism. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.22 05:24:00 - [4] I think you are confusing worth with relevance. Perhaps if you spent the time attempting to preserve the Empire instead striking out on your own into Providence you might actually be relevant. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.22 07:34:00 - [5] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Casserina Leshrac I think you are confusing worth with relevance. Progress! If Ms Neferis had referred to the loyalists as "irrelevant," I would have kept my peace...soldiers have little relevance to social climbers and visa-versa. The last time Ms Neferis was "relevant" to the CVA or the CVA to her, I collected two of her corpses as well as many of her fellow socialites and band of mercs. I'm sure Bloodveil are quite content for the CVA to remain irrelevant...and that deterence is just one contribution of the CVA to the preservation of the Empire. You cannot simply "talk" the CVA out of its effectiveness. To say that stablizing lawless borders of Empire space is not a service to the Empire is ignorance. To say that providing a guiding hand to developing organizations in the name of that Empire is not service is ignorance. And yet, that's all Bloodveil is left with...because for all the talk, Bloodveil finds themselves on the outside of tangible success and looking in. At the irrelevant CVA. If you are outside the Empire like you are in Providence then you are not doing the work of the Empire. Rather, its greed and power-mongering. Pure and simple. Never send a Gallente to do the work for an Amarr Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.23 00:03:00 - [6] I find it very interesting that the Loyalist Bloc seems to involved on creating mass hysteria for the general audience. It has been implied that Usha'Khan, Star Fraction and the Sani Sabik are acting in concert against the Empire. The reality is further from the truth. The truth is that above mentioned agencies have done more to inspire fear and terror amongst the corps and allied corps of the Loyalist Bloc. In many cases terrorizing these corps into siding with the Loyalists. This is the true face of terrorism. Not the Sani Sabik or the Star Fraction Alliances. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.23 17:30:00 - [7] Originally by: MorbidReality Edited by: MorbidReality on 23/07/2007 17:05:54 Edited by: MorbidReality on 23/07/2007 14:57:35 I have been following this and couple of other discussions concerning the Amarr empire and/or Bloodveil out of pure curiousity, and when I read a reply by a Bloodveil I sometimes see apes and monkeys mentioned and likely used to give a short description to the Minmatar, unless I am misunderstanding something. This confuses me, since in public information thread about the Sani Sabik and Bloodveil, it clearly states that several paths in the cult are open to all races, yet there are statements like "inferior race of monkeys", and it is hard to think that members of that race would be welcome into the cult. It would be appreciated if someone, preferredly someone of Bloodveil, could clear this up for me. I am not trying to criticize, I am trying to understand. (( OOC I am not an RPer myself, but this stuff is quite interesting and fun to read. )) Other sects of the Sani Sabik Faith (not the alliance under Bloodveil) have their own rules to their membership. And certainly they are allowed to have their own views in regards to the lesser races in their membership. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.

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